Is Freecycle allowed to harvest personal details from it's yahoo groups to it's new site without permission?
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Currently all Yahoo freecycle groups are required to have a miner address in their groups members if they wish to remain a recognised group on the new Freecycle independent website using Google ad's. My question is as this finder addy is effectively harvesting personal details as well as reproducing the group posts from Yahoo groups is it against Yahoo's TOS. This action is taking place right now in over 4000 groups. Should members be put in this position and who would be to blame? Freecycle, Yahoo or the group owner if the proverbial crap hit the fan?
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Answer:
Here is the complete E-mail From Yahoo: Including full headers.. Finder IS!!!! a violation of Yahoos TOS Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: by 10.70.67.15 with SMTP id p15cs395261wxa; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr3153737wam.1186161864332; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mrout2.yahoo.com (mrout2.yahoo.com [216.145.54.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l22si4896881waf.2007.08.03.10.24.23; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 216.145.54.172 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of [email protected]) DomainKey-Status: bad Received: from SNV-EXPF01.ds.corp.yahoo.com (snv-expf01.ds.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.227.250]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/y.out) with ESMTP id l73HOGtI062876 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:x-mimeole:content-class:mi… content-type:subject:date:message-id:… x-ms-tnef-correlator:thread-topic:thr… b=wb9q+oW8N2jNXTYSz0s5hwcB66c2vwHIQwA… Received: from SNV-EXVS01.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.145.51.185]) by SNV-EXPF01.ds.corp.yahoo.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:24:16 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7D5F… Subject: RE: Freecycle.org Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:24:15 -0700 Message-ID: <2C52DBBEC4855C438BB330CB0D3B46590D48DB@… X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: Freecycle.org Thread-Index: AcfV8x3yJhA6rHNtQDemN2LEaTLcAA== From: "Jami Heldt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Terrell Karlsten" <[email protected]> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2007 17:24:16.0193 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E16D310:01C7D5F3] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7D5F3.1E10A96… Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Charlotte,=20 =20 I am the Community Manager for Yahoo! Groups; Terrell has asked that I get back to you as she's out of the office today. She will follow up with you directly first thing Monday morning.=20 =20 Yahoo! values our users and their content, and we put into place guidelines to protect our users' content. The Yahoo! Groups guidelines prohibit the re-posting or re-transmitting of content that belong to another user without that user's permission. We are in communication with Freecycle.org and have ensured that they will refrain from re-posting Yahoo! Groups content on their website. As always, if you see any violations of Yahoo! Group's Terms of Service, please report them at: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/abuse.html <>=20http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/abuse.html>=20 =20 Please let me know if you have any questions. =20 Sincerely,=20 Jami=20 =20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *=20 =20 Jami Heldt I Yahoo! 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Groups; Terrell has asked that I get = back to you as she’s out of the office today. She will follow up with you directly first thing Monday morning. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p… <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Yahoo! values our users and their content, and we put into place guidelines to = protect our users’ content. The Yahoo! Groups guidelines prohibit = the re-posting or re-transmitting of content that belong to another user without that user’s permission. We are in communication with = Freecycle.org and have ensured that they will refrain from re-posting Yahoo! Groups = content on their website. As always, if you see any violations of Yahoo! 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below is the abuse form. if you have valid proof of TOS violations, report it on this form. if Yahoo finds violations of TOS, they'll act on it
crazy_mom2_1
I sincerely doubt that Freecycle Organization, with thousands upon thousands of Freecycle groups in the US alone, would do this. I wish you would edit your question and tell us where you got your information. In looking at your previous question about the Freecycle Organization, it gives me cause to wonder. You can ask Yahoo yourself by using their member help form. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/general.html?from_url=http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/web-203933.html Complete the form. In Item #7, select Other from the drop down menu. In #8, state your problem. Make it brief and straight to the point. You will receive reply back from Yahoo.
moekittykitty
I'm sure they got permission before they set it up. plus it's optional and has to be set up by group owners and most aren't even aware of it.
ClassicMustang
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