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Should Dole in Ireland be cut to €100 a week for a single people, so as to increase jobs in Tourism & Industry?

  • Now before I get a mini Lecture about “188 Euro a week is impossible to live on and I should try living on it myself”, please don’t. I have lived on less. I was bored one evening, as you are when there is nothing on T.V so I got out the calculator and did some calculations. A person on Minimum wage that gets 8.65-euro hour and say argument sake works 36 hours a week. That is 311.40 a week. Take out the USC and that is 302 a week. So a person on dole gets 188 plus an allowance of at least 50 euro a week. That is 238 euro. Plus they have a medical card. So lets compare so far. If you work 36 hours a week you are 67 euro better off. Take in account Lunch at say 4 euro a week. 20 euro a week. And travel at 20 euro a week. Now you are 27 euro better off working. Congratulations you are working to pay the life style of “The Dairy State” Of course I am being generous on my calculations. I am not taking into Account the fact, that you can get rent allowance for 400 euro a month and pay just 24 euro yourself. Also you can get fuel allowance, glasses, doctor, and medicine, light dental work. I do on the other hand think that everyone has right to food and roof over their head and Health services. That is a basic human right. But why should a person who does not work have a better standard of living than a person than does work? Research link relating to my question below? I showed some people this and they nearly cried. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/supplementary_welfare_schemes/rent_supplement.html I personally think that they should put social welfare down to 100 euro a week (for single person) and reduce rent allowance. Rent is artificially too high in Ireland because hundreds of thousands of people have rent allowance. It has being going on for years So do you think that dole for a single person (no children) should be put down to 100 euro a week? Forcing people to work. Plus if wages were better then it be worth their while to work. I can’t possibly make a comment on people with children that are on Welfare because children are very expensive. Children are also the vulnerable in society and have special status. So, I am only taking about single people. Please note the question above and the word “single people” I am not on about families. I think more money should be given to people that are working. (Especially on low wages, less taxes etc) The more people working the less tax will be because less people are getting welfare. That is basic economics. Give the people that are not working enough to tie them over. A basic nice safe place live and bit of cash. If I had a two-bedroom apartment no sharing and had pay just 24euro a week I be delighted. Sadly I am not into joining “The Dairy State”, because enough people are milking the system. Well the milk is nearly gone and it’s never a pretty sight to milk a dry cow. Thanks for your answers.

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    I can't see how cutting the dole for single people will create jobs in tourism & industry? It is hard generalise that single people don't "deserve" as much dole money as married people with kids? After all children (or rather the mother usually) gets child benefit of €140 per month per child so the dole should not pay extra for dependant children but it does. Many well off people used to save up this child benefit for their family holiday to Spain each year. Not quite what it was intended for? I think child benefit should be means tested and anyone with family income of over 40,000 Euro should not receive it at all. Target those in need. Take 57 year old newly divorced man living in rural Kerry whose kid have left home & whose wife has left the family home. He has worked since he was 17 but suddenly finds himself unemployed and struggling to keep the roof over his head. He has paid taxes & PRSI (or the equivalent) for 40 years so why should he not receive a decent dole payment? I defy anyone trying to run a home/pay bills and run/tax a car to survive on 100 Euro a week. No public transport in rural places a car is a necessity. If there were jobs and people were refusing to take them because they were low paid then I would say yes maybe consider gradually cutting dole payments for everyone to encourage the slackers off their @rses but as there are very few jobs it is not feasible.

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That's assuming that a single person on their own, independent of any other financial support is eligible and qualifies for all entitlements available, which doesn't always happen for each and every person that is on the dole.

Space Cadet

How oh so predictable - every downturn/crisis so often the "solutions" forwarded are effectively yet another manufactured race to the bottom as the fix-all !!!! "forcing people to work" ? what work, Maggie?You also appear to be completely unaware of commodity inflation i.e. food stuffs and fuel etc is set to sky rocket in the coming years, due to the money speculators moving in on them en masse in recent years. Prices are already painfully high for many on low incomes generally, both employed and otherwise anyhow (and actually bound to be higher now from when you claimed to "have lived on less").. Whatever way you choose to measure the "less you lived on" vis-a-vis exchange rate and prices of essentials at the time and place you're talking about compared to the current situation here and now , as anybody can lie about themselves online, the making of such personal claims never has any real credibly. On the other hand you could always perhaps also provide data on the colour of the sky on your planet while you're at it. It must be fun to make all the rules there yourself for everyone too, including it seems what people who disagree with you should and shouldn't be allowed say. Just about every " saving" in Ireland from now and the the foreseeable future is going to repay to ECB/IMF loan in case you don't realise. Tourism won't flourish if people fear an increased crime rate -something bound to happen if your plan was enacted in future particularly to the backdrop of a prolonged ongoing global slump, which is exactly what is on the cards ( that's the reality -not the official spin). If you want to make REAL savings tell the ECB/IMF where to go (pulling out of the single currency if needed) and burn the bank bondholders as has happened in Iceland. Ever wonder why the (Euro-phile controlled) mainstream never mentions the success of Iceland of beating the downturn there since? Nope, didn't think so!

Kevin56

Whoaah. You are on your high horse aren't you? I lost my job when I was off on long term sick- and before you decide I'm a scrounger I wasn't skiving, I had cancer. Out of that €188 comes the €26- not €24 toward rent, so €162. From this €162 comes electricity, food and heating. If you have a phone or internet that comes out too, travel, bin charges, tv licence, gas, etc. Last year I was off sick on the equivalent sickness payment and out of that I had to fund travel to GALWAY for hospital (and I live in DONEGAL). Last winter I had to move my bed into the main room because I couldn't afford to heat the full house, and will likely have to do the same this year. As I have been on the dole less than a year I won't get heating allowance. I've also last month had my neighbour put my TV in their attic because I can't afford to renew the licence and so am limited to Cartlann TG4 and RTE Player. Someone on your calculations actually would qualify for a medical card, look at the allowances.

R - G

I kind of agree and disagree with your question. The reason I agree is that yes there are people who are milking the system and need to be stopped but on the other hand there are genuine people who need it because of illness etc. and the majority of these people have either lost there jobs because of illness or other circumstances so they have paid taxes and are entitled to claim back the money they have paid. I know there are thousands on the dole or other benefits and yes it is a massive task to vet everyone and make sure there not making fraudulent claims but I really think the government need to get up off there holes and start looking into it! This would just mean that people who genuinely need it can get on with living there lives and stop having to defend themselves against the public who the majority of think there "milking the state". I can completely sympathize with someone who needs it and I happen to know people who are on the dole because of sudden illness but I can also say that I know people who have an attitude of "im entitled to it so why not?" and that is very very wrong especially since they are very capable of work. So you do have good points but I suppose all I could say to you is put yourself in the position who genuinely need it there just trying to get by on a very flawed system and unfortunately that is another failure of our "amazing" government.

blossom18

The only thing you haven't explained is how decreasing the dole to single people suddenly creates jobs in the tourist industry & persuades the numbers of people needed to justify creating those jobs to come to Ireland in the first place How does decreasing the dole to force people to work work if there are no jobs to be had?

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