I can't talk about other nations, but I have something to say about Turkey. Take a look at this;
The Turkish national anthem
Fear not! The red banner that ripples in this dawn, shall fade not,
Before the last hearth that is ablaze within my homeland is extinguished.
It is the star of my people, which shall shine;
It is mine; only it belongs to my people.
When I was in the primary school, I used to sing the national anthem every Monday before the start of the school.
Kids singing the Turkish National Anthem before the start of the week.
Everybody, your friends, your teachers and the staff are singin
I can't talk about other nations, but I have something to say about Turkey. Take a look at this;
The Turkish national anthem
Fear not! The red banner that ripples in this dawn, shall fade not,
Before the last hearth that is ablaze within my homeland is extinguished.
It is the star of my people, which shall shine;
It is mine; only it belongs to my people.
When I was in the primary school, I used to sing the national anthem every Monday before the start of the school.
Kids singing the Turkish National Anthem before the start of the week.
Everybody, your friends, your teachers and the staff are singing in harmony. The ambience, the meaningful words you ought to pronounce, everything is perfectly designed for you to feel Turk.
In national holidays and important events, you see Turkish flags EVERYWHERE. On the balconies of the common people, in the streets, you see nothing but Turkish flags again and again.
Don't be mistaken, it is not the government who pushes a nationalist agenda, it is the common people who voluntarily puts their flags. It doesn't matter if you are secular, religious, rich or poor. Even if you hate living here, you put your flag in that damn day.
Because it is a way for Turks to commemorate our ancestors who fought for us together in unity. That is why you see photos of Ataturk(It says “we are on your path" under) alongside with Turkish flags.
That is how you build a stable nation state from the ashes of a crumbling empire. That is how we avoided becoming like other failed states of Middle East. People know this well. That is why we feel a very deep connection to the national symbols of our country.
It is Memorial day weekend, and as such, I ruminate about the incredibly journey that the United States of America has been on.
I think about the heroic defiance that led to our nation becoming free. The underdog who won the bout despite every pundit guessing otherwise.
I think about the sacrifice, of people losing their lives in wars so that we could enjoy the freedoms that we are accustomed.
I thin
It is Memorial day weekend, and as such, I ruminate about the incredibly journey that the United States of America has been on.
I think about the heroic defiance that led to our nation becoming free. The underdog who won the bout despite every pundit guessing otherwise.
I think about the sacrifice, of people losing their lives in wars so that we could enjoy the freedoms that we are accustomed.
I think about the brilliant minds who created the constitution and documents that still guide our nation decades later.
So why do people feel patriotic?
For me, it starts with the observation that the United States has afforded me incredible opportunity. The opportunity to build a business, the opportunity to be safe with a stable rule of law, the opportunity to practice whatever faith I choose (or don’t choose), the freedom to read and learn without censor, the freedom to contribute to the nation in whatever ways I find best suited for my strengths.
The United States is a global epicenter of innovation, harboring many of the most ground breaking technologies that are re-writing the future of the globe.
And even though I didn’t choose where I was born, I still feel a sense of gratitude. I lucked out, and I am eternally thankful for it. But it’s more than that. I also feel a responsibility.
You see patriotism to me is about carrying the essence of what it means to be an American wherever I go.
It means advocating for those who are disenfranchised and forgotten. It means standing up against despotism and oppression. It means celebrating the immigrants and diverse population of the US that has made it what we are today. It means fighting for freedom of speech, freedom to protest, freedom for people to live their lives as they see fit. It means working every day to help others and making the world just a little bit of a brighter place. It means making sacrifices, even when they hard and against our personal best interests, if they are in the best interests of the whole, the nation. It means acting on a moral code of ethics and honor, even if cutting corners could reap some ill-gotten rewards.
Patriotism is not about beating our chests and telling the world we are the best. Patriotism is not about ostentation, and “America First!” and an us vs. them philosophy. It’s not about flying the flag and saying the right words in one breath but then belittling those who are di...
There are a lot of obvious patriotic songs about Russia, but I think that the feeling of Russian patriotism is better represented in slightly more subtle songs, like “The Horse” by the Lyube music band. This is a subtitled video of “The Horse” performed by Russian folk singer Pelageya and Lyube (technically, this is a cover, but I really like this performance because I am a sucker for male-female duets). “The Horse” starts small and eventually evolves into a song about the love for Russia. I think it really hits the nail on the head in terms of being the ulti
There are a lot of obvious patriotic songs about Russia, but I think that the feeling of Russian patriotism is better represented in slightly more subtle songs, like “The Horse” by the Lyube music band. This is a subtitled video of “The Horse” performed by Russian folk singer Pelageya and Lyube (technically, this is a cover, but I really like this performance because I am a sucker for male-female duets). “The Horse” starts small and eventually evolves into a song about the love for Russia. I think it really hits the nail on the head in terms of being the ultimate Russian patriotic song. Because a true Russian patriot thinks about Russia even when they are not thinking about Russia specifically.
As you can see, I really like this song and I enjoy listening to it. It makes me think about a very brief moment of my young life when I lived in a village in Russia, close to the place where my grandfather was born. It was a very rewarding experience, and I often look back at those days with nostalgia. Although I am a proud Moscovite, and I enjoy living in a Russian megalopolis.
The only correct answer is the Soviet Union national anthem.
I’m a Libertarian, but this anthem makes me want to establish the dictatorship of the proletariat.
It’s really too bad for the Soviets that YouTube and digital music didn’t exist during the Cold War. They would’ve won the world just by releasing this song on the internet.
Okay take the star spangled banner for example. It was written by Francis (I think that’s his name) Scott Key while he was watching a battle go down on Ft. McHenry (If I’m recalling this correctly…). It must have been very emotional to anyone who was there that night because they all believed in a strong cause to make America independent from Britain to crate their own country. So basically what I’m trying to say is that a national flag represents everything that the people of a country are and what they had to do to because there own independent country. Whether it’s America or France or Anot
Okay take the star spangled banner for example. It was written by Francis (I think that’s his name) Scott Key while he was watching a battle go down on Ft. McHenry (If I’m recalling this correctly…). It must have been very emotional to anyone who was there that night because they all believed in a strong cause to make America independent from Britain to crate their own country. So basically what I’m trying to say is that a national flag represents everything that the people of a country are and what they had to do to because there own independent country. Whether it’s America or France or Another country. I hope that answered your question…
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Three of them:
The Netherlands: Het Wilhelmus. The oldest current anthem. Resolute and dignified.
Italy: Fratelli d’Italia. Festive and proud, like a villagers chorus by Verdi.
Wales: Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. The unofficial anthem. Fervent and poignant.
Yes! There is the country of my birth, my education, my culture, my ancestors. The country my father and my uncles fought for in a dozen war zones all over the world. The country that still honors the sacrifices they made so I could be born to live and learn in freedom. Still “home.” Then there is the country in which I have raised my children, struggled sometimes, and succeeded sometimes, with the help and the love of very dear friends. Their country, their education, their culture! And my “other home!” Why would I not honor the country that has enabled me to raise my children in relative pea
Yes! There is the country of my birth, my education, my culture, my ancestors. The country my father and my uncles fought for in a dozen war zones all over the world. The country that still honors the sacrifices they made so I could be born to live and learn in freedom. Still “home.” Then there is the country in which I have raised my children, struggled sometimes, and succeeded sometimes, with the help and the love of very dear friends. Their country, their education, their culture! And my “other home!” Why would I not honor the country that has enabled me to raise my children in relative peace and comfort? Surrounded by people I love. I am proud to help them work toward creating the even better future we all believe possible. If that’s not patriotism, what is?
‘God save our gracious Queen…’ This is the anthem for the United Kingdom and the word, Queen, will change to ‘King’ when a male is the sovereign. The music is solemn and majestic and the lyrics are inclusive by the use of the word, ‘our.’ Further the lyrics are simple, repetitive and, because of that, seem to be widely known by the British public who participate in singing it to a much greater extent than the usual participation in our U.S. National Anthem. Its use is a very emotional event.
Not to be unpatriotic, I personally feel that our ‘Star Spangled Banner’ is a disaster. The song’s narra
‘God save our gracious Queen…’ This is the anthem for the United Kingdom and the word, Queen, will change to ‘King’ when a male is the sovereign. The music is solemn and majestic and the lyrics are inclusive by the use of the word, ‘our.’ Further the lyrics are simple, repetitive and, because of that, seem to be widely known by the British public who participate in singing it to a much greater extent than the usual participation in our U.S. National Anthem. Its use is a very emotional event.
Not to be unpatriotic, I personally feel that our ‘Star Spangled Banner’ is a disaster. The song’s narrative focuses on one small episode in out nation’s history, not a broad recognition of our country’s greatness. Further, the words and music don’t seem to be singable by most and thus that fact often occasions the use of a solo singer who each have their own interpretation; some are just dreadful. Those ‘dramatic’ kinds of interpretations I have called the ‘nightclub’ renditions of our National Anthem. We should and could do better with a different song.
As hard as it is for a Brazilian to admit, it’s impossible not to feel goosebumps when tens of thousands of Argentinian supporters chant their national anthem before the matches.
I happened to be in the stadium at the very match of this video (the 2014 World Cup finals), and, for the few seconds they chanted their anthem, there was nothing I wanted more than to see them winning that game. Of course, I came back to reason right after, and enjoyed every minute of them losing it :-)
Americans are no more “tribal” than anyone else. Nearly every country’s “anthem” is a form of patriotic song and regardless of anyone’s disappointments or whatever as to what their or someone else’s country has come to represent over time, to go looking for a “cause” to patriotic songs is almost laughable. Here’s an answer, perhaps it’s a vitamin D deficiency. People gather in communities ranging from tiny villages to giant nations and they go looking for comfort in being a part of their community. Sometimes they sing about it. Sorry if that is offensive. Patriotic songs seem more nationalisti
Americans are no more “tribal” than anyone else. Nearly every country’s “anthem” is a form of patriotic song and regardless of anyone’s disappointments or whatever as to what their or someone else’s country has come to represent over time, to go looking for a “cause” to patriotic songs is almost laughable. Here’s an answer, perhaps it’s a vitamin D deficiency. People gather in communities ranging from tiny villages to giant nations and they go looking for comfort in being a part of their community. Sometimes they sing about it. Sorry if that is offensive. Patriotic songs seem more nationalistic than they really are in the minds of the ordinary people of a country, and they’re merely adopted by the people more from a sense of community than from a need to invade their neighbors.
We have quite a few here in the U.S. Among the best-known is “America the Beautiful”, while another that pretty much every kid of my generation learned to sing very early on is “My Country ‘Tis of Thee”.
Irving Berlin first wrote “God Bless America” in 1918, following the end of World War I; after Hitler's rise in 1938, Berlin — a Russian Jew who had immigrated to the U.S. at age five — revised the song and added to it to present it as a “peace song”.
Folk music icon and self-professed (small-C) communist Woody Guthrie was highly critical of and irritated by “God Bles
We have quite a few here in the U.S. Among the best-known is “America the Beautiful”, while another that pretty much every kid of my generation learned to sing very early on is “My Country ‘Tis of Thee”.
Irving Berlin first wrote “God Bless America” in 1918, following the end of World War I; after Hitler's rise in 1938, Berlin — a Russian Jew who had immigrated to the U.S. at age five — revised the song and added to it to present it as a “peace song”.
Folk music icon and self-professed (small-C) communist Woody Guthrie was highly critical of and irritated by “God Bless America”, of which Kate Smith's version was all over the radio in the late 30s, and it was in response to that song that in 1940, he wrote perhaps my favorite American patriotic song, “This Land is Your Land” (which was originally titled “God Blessed America for Me”, in direct mockery of “God Bless America”).
The irony is that plenty of right-wing politicians and organizations have proudly used “This Land is Your Land” over the years, and while it is a genuinely patriotic song, its lyrics are decidedly leftist, especially in Guthrie's unedited original recording. It's about the U.S. belonging to ALL Americans, not just the wealthy elite. The more radical parts were, of course, removed from the version taught to American schoolchildren, because that's just how we roll in the U.S.
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There are many that I can mention under this thread but the ones I listen to regularly include the following:
My go to song these days is Death with Dignity by Sufjan Stevens.
I don't know why it's relatable and ofcourse has a perfect melody and is very soothing on the ears.
I really like Modern Folk so that's why most of my feel good songs are of that category. They have an old world charm and listening to them makes me feel everything will be fine!
Image courtesy: my account ( Amazon music app)
There are many that I can mention under this thread but the ones I listen to regularly include the following:
My go to song these days is Death with Dignity by Sufjan Stevens.
I don't know why it's relatable and ofcourse has a perfect melody and is very soothing on the ears.
I really like Modern Folk so that's why most of my feel good songs are of that category. They have an old world charm and listening to them makes me feel everything will be fine!
Image courtesy: my account ( Amazon music app)
It really is no longer relevant in todays world. I used to be patriotic being a Kenyan but when the westgate terror attack occured and the military robbed the mall instead of killing the terrorists and let them escape, I went through a whole sense of self-inflicted shame whereby I a few months before the attack was telling the world that despite my Indian ethnicity that I was Kenyan first and then Indian...
There was no one to laugh at me when the president forgave the looters of the westgate mall, but the president did not forgive them asking them to return the loot, he just blankly forgave th
It really is no longer relevant in todays world. I used to be patriotic being a Kenyan but when the westgate terror attack occured and the military robbed the mall instead of killing the terrorists and let them escape, I went through a whole sense of self-inflicted shame whereby I a few months before the attack was telling the world that despite my Indian ethnicity that I was Kenyan first and then Indian...
There was no one to laugh at me when the president forgave the looters of the westgate mall, but the president did not forgive them asking them to return the loot, he just blankly forgave them and then tried to change the legislation thereby controlling the media so as to cover up his mess.
Thats when I lost all sense of patriotism as I realized that you know what, no matter how much anyone loves their country, no matter who does whatever good for it... if the leaders do not care they shall ruin it all and I would have to face a lot of shame from everyone.
Do not let human created borders definte your nationality, do not feel that you should belong to one particular border therefore becoming patriotic, but instead become more enlightened knowing that the human being is the most evolved species out there, and you do your part in making the world a better place by improving yourself everyday, or touch someone's life with a gesture with no expectations in return.
Patriotic songs basically foster in us a sense of belongingness to a particular nation, its creed and thus block our mind with militant patriotism. They blind us to that extent that we overlook goodwill and humanism at large.
That's what I have come to realise over these years. When I was a kid I was the only one in class to raise a hand when asked who has the heart to sacrifice his life for the sake of his nation. But lately it has dawned on me that what is needed is respecting every nation's sentiment and not give in to chauvinism, that in one way or the other is fostered by patriotic songs.
Well, if there’s one thing we have a surfeit of in Ireland, it’s patriotic songs. Probably the most important is “A Nation Once Again,” written by the Young Ireland revolutionary leader Thomas Davis in 1844. It served as the unofficial anthem of Irish nationalism until Amhrán na bhFiann appeared in the early 20th century and later became the national anthem.
“A Nation Once Again” has a rousing chorus and is much easier to sing than the official anthem. It has been covered by everyone from John McCormack to the Clancy Brothers, and was once voted the world’s most popular song in a BBC World Serv
Well, if there’s one thing we have a surfeit of in Ireland, it’s patriotic songs. Probably the most important is “A Nation Once Again,” written by the Young Ireland revolutionary leader Thomas Davis in 1844. It served as the unofficial anthem of Irish nationalism until Amhrán na bhFiann appeared in the early 20th century and later became the national anthem.
“A Nation Once Again” has a rousing chorus and is much easier to sing than the official anthem. It has been covered by everyone from John McCormack to the Clancy Brothers, and was once voted the world’s most popular song in a BBC World Service poll. In the Beatles film A Hard Day’s Night, Paul’s Irish grandfather (played by Wilfrid Brambell) sings it as he is being arrested by British police for hawking autographed pictures of the band members.
Here it is, sung by the Dubliners:
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A Short Succinct Lesson On American Patriotism
To Be A Patriot
Legislated as the Senate’s first act on May 5, 1789 with the passage of the “Oath Act”.
“I do solemnly swear/affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States”.
Then we have the constitutional job requirements all who are elected, appointed or hired at local, state & federal positions agree to comply with and abide by when they give their word, honor & Oath to uphold & defend our Constitution & nation against all enemies, foreign & domestic enemies.
Article VI U.S. Constitution, Job requirements
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A Short Succinct Lesson On American Patriotism
To Be A Patriot
Legislated as the Senate’s first act on May 5, 1789 with the passage of the “Oath Act”.
“I do solemnly swear/affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States”.
Then we have the constitutional job requirements all who are elected, appointed or hired at local, state & federal positions agree to comply with and abide by when they give their word, honor & Oath to uphold & defend our Constitution & nation against all enemies, foreign & domestic enemies.
Article VI U.S. Constitution, Job requirements for elected, appointed & hired at local
Article VI
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Preamble to the United States Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
On May 5, 1789, the Senate passed its first bill—the Oath Act. That first oath, for members and civil servants:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States."
Define: Oath
1. a solemn promise, often invoking a divine witness, regarding one's future action or behavior.
• Synonyms: vow, sworn statement, promise, pledge, avowal, affirmation, attestation, guarantee, bond, word, word of honor
Oath of Office
An official promise by a person who has been elected to a public office to fulfill the duties of the office according to law & Constitution
Public Trust
Known as a purpose trust. It might or might not be charitable. It is created to promote public welfare and not for the needs of any single individual or group.
“Public Trust” relates back to the origins of democratic government & its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power and future of a society, therefore, whatever trust the public places in its officials must be respected.*"I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States."
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SCOTUS Has Never Kept Their Oath or Article VI of the Constitution
That Corrupted American Justice & Politics
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LETTER TO AMERICA FROM ONE OF THE UNEDUCATED**
None of our SCOTUS Justices have ever held themselves or the court to the standards set by their Oaths and Article VI of the Constitution, and without any outside influence it would still be corrupt today for that reason.
Supreme Court Justices swear to 2-Oaths, or a combined Oath when they are sworn in.
The Constitutional Oath
“I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
Then one for their job as Justices
The Judicial Oath
“I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as _________ under the Constitution and laws of the United States.”
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Had the court ever started keeping its own Oath, and held themselves to the standard of the Constitution and their office represents, we’d not need Civil Rights Laws, an ERA Amendment, any race, LGBTQ+ equality laws, et al, because every person born in America, is an American First! Before any personal attributes.
America would be a far different place, we’d have gotten ourselves past mot hate and bigotry.
6-generations ago Blacks were made American citizens and given the right-to-vote.
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The most famous one is probably the Finlandia Hymn by Jean Sibelius.
It’s not originally a song but an orchestral work, and the hymn is just a part of it, but Sibelius himself arranged the Finlandia Hymn for a choir. The arrangement I prefer is for 4 male or female voices, that’s the one that’s more faithful to the original woodwind voices of the orchestral version; the SATB arrangement is somehow more blurry.
The hymn has been adopted as a hymn in many churches across the world, with different lyrics of course. I also like the a cappella version by Joan Baez a
The most famous one is probably the Finlandia Hymn by Jean Sibelius.
It’s not originally a song but an orchestral work, and the hymn is just a part of it, but Sibelius himself arranged the Finlandia Hymn for a choir. The arrangement I prefer is for 4 male or female voices, that’s the one that’s more faithful to the original woodwind voices of the orchestral version; the SATB arrangement is somehow more blurry.
The hymn has been adopted as a hymn in many churches across the world, with different lyrics of course. I also like the a cappella version by Joan Baez a lot, and it touches me even more deeply since the hymn has such an important role in our national self-awareness.
Another important patriotic song in Finland is Porilaisten marssi. The melody may be of German origin, and the lyrics are written by the poet Johan Ludvig Runeberg.
It’s a military march that conmemorates the Finnish War between Sweden and Russia. The march is very explicit in the way in which it describes war, and I have always found it aggressive. Nontheless, it’s the march that’s played when the President appears — or on the Finnish TV when a Finnish athlete wins gold.
I also want to mention a beautiful patriotic song that’s traditionally been used in funerals of fallen soldiers and, more recently, in those of Presidents.
It’s called Oi, kallis Suomenmaa, and the melody is originally a folk song from the 18th century. Heikki Klemetti wrote the lyrics in 1920.
Oh, precious Finland,
let me listen to the foams of your streams
and the swish of your pines
until it's time to go!
I can't find another place more beloved in the world
than this poor homeland
that the work of our forefathers has made beautiful.
(…)I don't wish for other glory
than that of hearing your spruces whisper
on my grave
after you have covered me
into my last rest.
That’s something very typical of the Finnish patriotic songs: very little might and power, and very much love for nature.
Forest: that’s where we come from, and that’s where we will find our last resting place.
You can find the sheet here: https://vlv.fi/jdownloads/Nuotit/oi_kallis_suomenmaa.pdf
I want to conclude by quoting the lyrics of the Joan Baez’ version of Finlandia.
This, to me, is the most beautiful form of patriotism.
This is my song, O God of all the nations
A song of peace, for lands afar and mine
This is my home, the country where my heart is
Here are my hopes, my dreams, my holy shrine
But other hearts in other lands are beating
With hopes and dreams as true and high as mineMy country's skies are bluer than the ocean
And sunlight beams on clover leaf and pine
But other lands have sunlight too, and clover
And skies are everywhere as blue as mine
Oh hear my song, thou God of all the nations
A song of peace for their land and for mine
Absolutely! Here are a few examples :
- Folk Songs:
- "This Land is Your Land" (alternate verses) by Woody Guthrie: While the most famous verses of "This Land is Your Land" celebrate America's bounty, Guthrie wrote additional verses that are more critical of social inequality. These lesser-known verses offer a more complex perspective on patriotism.
- "I Hear America Singing" by Walt Whitman (set to music by various artists): This poem by Walt Whitman, set to music by various composers, is a powerful celebration of the American people's diversity and spirit.
- "Battle Hymn of the Republic" (original lyric
Absolutely! Here are a few examples :
- Folk Songs:
- "This Land is Your Land" (alternate verses) by Woody Guthrie: While the most famous verses of "This Land is Your Land" celebrate America's bounty, Guthrie wrote additional verses that are more critical of social inequality. These lesser-known verses offer a more complex perspective on patriotism.
- "I Hear America Singing" by Walt Whitman (set to music by various artists): This poem by Walt Whitman, set to music by various composers, is a powerful celebration of the American people's diversity and spirit.
- "Battle Hymn of the Republic" (original lyrics by Julia Ward Howe): The original lyrics to "Battle Hymn of the Republic" are quite different from the familiar version sung today. Howe's original lyrics are a powerful call for the abolition of slavery.
- Other Genres:
- "Lift Every Voice and Sing" by James Weldon Johnson: Often referred to as the "Black national anthem," this stirring song celebrates resilience and the hope for a brighter future.
- "America the Beautiful" (alternate version by Katharine Lee Bates): Similar to "This Land is Your Land," Katharine Lee Bates wrote a lesser-known second verse to "America the Beautiful" that highlights the need for social justice.
- "So Long, It's Been Good to Know You" by Woody Guthrie: This bittersweet song by Woody Guthrie expresses both love for America and a yearning for something better.
Cheers!
Sir, There are many good choices possible but I really enjoy Let’s Roll America The Bellamy Brothers - Let's Roll America from 01’ by the Bellamy Brother’s
. The song was recorded shortly after the horror of 9/11 unfolded upon our great nation and it honors those who gave all that terrible September day . Surely this song is one that serves to remind Americans what a truly great nation we call home .
Sir, There are many good choices possible but I really enjoy Let’s Roll America The Bellamy Brothers - Let's Roll America from 01’ by the Bellamy Brother’s
. The song was recorded shortly after the horror of 9/11 unfolded upon our great nation and it honors those who gave all that terrible September day . Surely this song is one that serves to remind Americans what a truly great nation we call home .
I believe the most patriotic song in my country is the 1st section of the German national anthem, which goes Germany, Germany over Everything.
This is usually not performed in Germany since it is called overly nationalistic and it would make me very uncomfortable if it were performed, e.g. by my friends because I would think they are Neo-Nazis because of it
As a citizen of the US, a country with deeply divided views and practices of patriotism, I think this is a fascinating question that doesn't get addressed very often.
Perhaps you find yourself in a similar situation to my own.
Personally, I do not consider myself patriotic. I find patriotism as it exists here is often one or two steps removed from blind nationalism, which I find terrifying.
Too, patriotism as it currently exists here primarily involves putting up and waving flags, going to parades, fetishizing the military et c. I find that these are all pretty empty acts, just symbols that tak
As a citizen of the US, a country with deeply divided views and practices of patriotism, I think this is a fascinating question that doesn't get addressed very often.
Perhaps you find yourself in a similar situation to my own.
Personally, I do not consider myself patriotic. I find patriotism as it exists here is often one or two steps removed from blind nationalism, which I find terrifying.
Too, patriotism as it currently exists here primarily involves putting up and waving flags, going to parades, fetishizing the military et c. I find that these are all pretty empty acts, just symbols that take little energy or thought, and have little to do with the things that actually make this country impressive. Meanwhile some of those who are interested in quietly experiencing and preserving the natural beauty of the country are looked down on. I find the idea of the US, the tenets that it stand on, to be worthy of celebration, but in practice these tenets are not upheld equally, especially by the government that we are celebrating.
There are some who will construe any criticism of the country in which they live to be an existential threat to that country. In the US this is not a majority view, but the small minority that espouses it can be very vocal and aggressive.
The question arises then: What is it really that constitutes the country? Is it the idea that it is built on? The actions of its governing class at any given time? Its prosperity and industry? Its people and their values? The happiness of its citizens?
Ultimately it is very possible (likely I think) that you will identify with some of those but not others, will value some of them but not all of them. I think it is best to celebrate those things about ones country that are good and constructive and beneficial to all, while criticizing those things that are destructive or less good.
I like “This Land is Your Land” by Woody Guthrie because of its inclusive message. It stirs the guiding ethos of my social and political viewpoints which is “We’re all in this together”. I find that sentiment to be the essence of patriotism. But, actually, even more than national patriotism to something closer to global patriotism because the song leads my mind to an even more expansive notion that the entire earth is made for all inhabitants of the planet.
Like 50 shades of grey, there are many behaviors that display patriotism. The love of one's country is level one and not everyone is willing to profess their love with zealous behaviors. There are people who would do anything and fight everyone blindly if anyone offend their beloved country. Then, there are those who love to display their patriotic love by wearing everything and donning all things that has a symbol of their country of origin. You already answer it with your question, you LIKE your country but not LOVE your country. When you pledge your undying love, that's when you can ov
Like 50 shades of grey, there are many behaviors that display patriotism. The love of one's country is level one and not everyone is willing to profess their love with zealous behaviors. There are people who would do anything and fight everyone blindly if anyone offend their beloved country. Then, there are those who love to display their patriotic love by wearing everything and donning all things that has a symbol of their country of origin. You already answer it with your question, you LIKE your country but not LOVE your country. When you pledge your undying love, that's when you can overlook all its flaws and defend your country at all costs including your life. That is why all governments praise patriotic and not because of anything but want you to die for them. JFK once said "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country". It was most quoted by blind patriots who were rewarded with tax t'ill we part. It's not a bad thing, the French are doing just that and paying the highest tax in the world close to 75% (according to Steven Crowder). You are fine, you don't have to jump on the band wagon and be the extremist patriotic.
First of all, I was in the U.S. Army for 5 years, have been in my fair share of patriotic displays. With that said I am a Christian now, and I personally do not pay allegiance to a nation, only to the Kingdom of God……..It sounds like a Jehovah Witness, but I am not, we kind of agree that we only have allegiance to Jehovah, and not to a political entity. They don’t believe in voting, I do.
I am turned off by people burning the flag, I am also turned off by some blonde haired bozo going on state at CPAC and hugging and humping the flag, like I am a blue color in one of the stripes or another colo
First of all, I was in the U.S. Army for 5 years, have been in my fair share of patriotic displays. With that said I am a Christian now, and I personally do not pay allegiance to a nation, only to the Kingdom of God……..It sounds like a Jehovah Witness, but I am not, we kind of agree that we only have allegiance to Jehovah, and not to a political entity. They don’t believe in voting, I do.
I am turned off by people burning the flag, I am also turned off by some blonde haired bozo going on state at CPAC and hugging and humping the flag, like I am a blue color in one of the stripes or another color. I also see the reality of war, like watching 8 episodes of Band of Brothers, and Vietnam classic that “patriotism” is not all “rosy”.
And as much as I don’t like the DNC platform, I hate MAGA worse and will NOT vote for Trump
If you love your country and you are ashamed or angry about the direction its leadership is taking it, it’s not unpatriotic to express those feelings. If you love your country you want what’s best for it, and seeing it go down the toilet is not a positive feeling at all. Patriotism can definitely involve negative feelings. Just like parenthood, love does not mean always gushing and cooing; sometimes the object of our love is naughty and must be corrected. This can be done in a positive way, but the feelings involved may not be entirely positive. I don’t know many people who regard the misbehav
If you love your country and you are ashamed or angry about the direction its leadership is taking it, it’s not unpatriotic to express those feelings. If you love your country you want what’s best for it, and seeing it go down the toilet is not a positive feeling at all. Patriotism can definitely involve negative feelings. Just like parenthood, love does not mean always gushing and cooing; sometimes the object of our love is naughty and must be corrected. This can be done in a positive way, but the feelings involved may not be entirely positive. I don’t know many people who regard the misbehavior of loved ones with joy.
I believe it is the tune rather than the words. When I hear the Russian national anthem, I find it to be one of the most spine-tingling ones around, and I don’t even understand it. I’m not Russian anyway.
Tellingly, when the USSR broke up, Russia adopted a completely new national anthem. But shortly after, they reverted to the previous tune, and just changed the lyrics. They probably realised that the new one sounded a lot less impressive than what they’d previously had.
I have to admit, I think that the Russians have a knack for composing rousing tunes.
I lived with the Catalan people for many years…
They always treated me with respect, probably because I wasn’t Spanish.
Nah, Catalans and Spanish people did get on, sometimes, depending…
As I’m from Britain, I know a fair few British examples of patriotic music so this is a fairly Anglo-centric answer, though I shall include some other countries’ music.
Note, I’m only listing music composers not lyricists, though you are free to search the lyricists on Google.
Elgar - Pomp and Circumstance March No. 1
Also known as ‘Land of Hope and Glory’.
Thomas Arne - Rule Brittania!
Hubert Parry - Jerusalem
Traditional Anthem - Trelawney
The ceremonial anthem of Cornwall, if you didn’t know.
As I’m from Britain, I know a fair few British examples of patriotic music so this is a fairly Anglo-centric answer, though I shall include some other countries’ music.
Note, I’m only listing music composers not lyricists, though you are free to search the lyricists on Google.
Elgar - Pomp and Circumstance March No. 1
Also known as ‘Land of Hope and Glory’.
Thomas Arne - Rule Brittania!
Hubert Parry - Jerusalem
Traditional Anthem - Trelawney
The ceremonial anthem of Cornwall, if you didn’t know.
Traditional - The Flower of Scotland
The ceremonial and a proposed anthem for Scotland.
Tukhmanov - Victory Day!
A Russian patriotic song about victory in Europe.
Matvei Blanter - Katyusha
Another Russian patriotic song from the soviet era which depicts a girl longing for her absent love.
J. P. Sousa - Stars and Stripes Forever
Traditional - Yankee Doodle
Traditional - Battle Hymn of the Republic
What songs evoke palpable emotion?
For me it would be the song “Down in the Tube Station at Midnight” by The Jam.
The song tells the story of a man who is mugged and beaten in a subway station late at night. As he lies bleeding on the ground, he worries about the thugs who attacked him getting away with the keys to his apartment and what has happened to his wife while he was unconscious… Terrifying and brutal.
Lyrics:
The distant echo
Of faraway voices boarding faraway trains
To take them home to
The ones that they love and who love them forever
The glazed, dirty steps,
What songs evoke palpable emotion?
For me it would be the song “Down in the Tube Station at Midnight” by The Jam.
The song tells the story of a man who is mugged and beaten in a subway station late at night. As he lies bleeding on the ground, he worries about the thugs who attacked him getting away with the keys to his apartment and what has happened to his wife while he was unconscious… Terrifying and brutal.
Lyrics:
The distant echo
Of faraway voices boarding faraway trains
To take them home to
The ones that they love and who love them forever
The glazed, dirty steps, repeat my own and reflect my thoughts
Cold and uninviting, partially naked
Except for toffee wrappers and this morning's paper
Mr. Jones got run down
Headlines of death and sorrow, they tell of tomorrow
Madmen on the rampage
And I'm down in the tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
I fumble for change, and pull out the Queen
Smiling, beguiling
I put in the money and pull out a plum
Behind me -
Whispers in the shadows, gruff blazing voices
Hating, waiting
"Hey boy" they shout, "have you got any money?"
And I said, "I've a little money and a takeaway curry
I'm on my way home to my wife
She'll be lining up the cutlery, you know she's expecting me
Polishing the glasses and pulling out the cork"
I'm down in the tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
I first felt a fist, and then a kick
I could now smell their breath
They smelt of pubs and wormwood scrubs
And too many right wing meetings
My life swam around me
It took a look and drowned me in its own existence
The smell of brown leather
It blended in with the weather
Filled my eyes, ears, nose and mouth, it blocked all my senses
Couldn't see, hear, speak any longer
I'm down in the tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
I said I was down in the tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
Oi!
The last thing that I saw as I lay there on the floor
Was "Jesus saves" painted by an atheist nutter
And a British rail poster read "have an away day, a cheap holiday
Do it today"
I glanced back on my life, and thought about my wife
'Cause they took the keys, and she'll think it's me
I'm down in the tube station at midnight
The wine will be flat and the curry's gone cold
I'm down in the tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
Don't want to go down in a tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
Don't want to go down in a tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
Don't want to go down in a tube station at midnight, Oh whoa, oh oh
Few reasons:
- That is what we are taught since childhood
- We listen to the anthem during Flag hoisting more than any other time. That brings a sense of pride in us
- During Republic Day and Indian Independence Day, this is played at every nook and corner, but programming our minds that, this anthem has got to do ONLY with Nationalism / patriotism
- It so happens that, the tune is simple that can be sung by any, without much practice. The lyrics cover the geographical spread of sub-continent, filling the sense of “we are the bhagya-vidhatas of our own land”
- It hardly is for a minute and finishes well with
Few reasons:
- That is what we are taught since childhood
- We listen to the anthem during Flag hoisting more than any other time. That brings a sense of pride in us
- During Republic Day and Indian Independence Day, this is played at every nook and corner, but programming our minds that, this anthem has got to do ONLY with Nationalism / patriotism
- It so happens that, the tune is simple that can be sung by any, without much practice. The lyrics cover the geographical spread of sub-continent, filling the sense of “we are the bhagya-vidhatas of our own land”
- It hardly is for a minute and finishes well with in the attention span of most people of the country. Hence, making it more acceptable!
What else do one want to feel pride?!